to education, health care, social issues, what have you? >> well, all those things matter, certainly when it comes to education, that's the future. i mean, the future generations will be -- will fail, rise, or fall based on education, so that's a very important building block for the country going forward. >> is that a building block for romney's campaign? >> it is. it's something he's talked about. he has an idea for americans and education that's very different from what president obama has been able to do. president obama would like also to do a lot of the school choice things that romney is talking about, but has been hampered from doing any of it. >> tonight, they will not go into the foreign policy stuff. the one part where obama is weak is this flip-flopping, if you will, on the libya stuff. that's the weakness, the nugget, if you will, the window opening. they won't go into that tonight, or they shouldn't go into it. >> thank you, guys, for the pregame. appreciate it. quick programming note. cnbc's coverage of the first presidential debate begins tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern time.